Please forgive this second post in one day on the Wikipedia topic, but this thread
has really sparked some interesting discussion with my colleagues here including
the following:
1) What do students understand about wikis as a whole? Last year, our school began
using Moodle and many teachers began setting up "study guide wikis" for their
classes. In these wikis, students may collectively create study guides for units
before tests. However, it is made VERY CLEAR that each individual student is
solely responisble for vetting and checking the information on the wiki before the
test. If wrong content gets posted and a student gets marked down on a test as a
result ... tough cookies. You should have checked the content in your own notes
and text book!!! In our discussion here, we suspect that this practice has had the
very nice side effect of making students much more aware of the empowerment of a
group building the body of information together in a wiki, but also of the
drawbacks and limits of the wiki as a tool. We now rarely get argument from
students along the "why can't we cite Wikipedia" line.
2) What do you teach in your programs? Works cited lists? Works consulted lists?
Bibliography? We call everything here "bibliography" but in reality it evolves as
student moves from 7th through 9th. Our 7th graders submit "bibliographies" which
are largely lists of works that they consulted, but by the time our Frosh leave us
they are really turning lists of works that are cited in their papers. What do you
do? Does it matter or am I just thinking too darned much???
dave
Dave Wee, Librarian
Harvard-Westlake Middle School
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From: School Library Media & Network Communications on behalf of Barbara COMBES
Sent: Mon 2/2/2009 4:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [LM_NET] Wikipedia
Mmm ... I wasn't going to buy into this one, but we met one of the
editors at the ASLA Conference in 2007. He had been editing Wikipedia
for 3 years. Guess what - he was a 17 Y.O. schoolboy. There have also
been a number of articles over the last few years about the quality of
the editors and the editing process.
Guess the major point we need to teach the kids here is that Wikipedia
is a resources and like any resource - print or electronic, we need to
verify the accuracy and authority of the source. Just because it is in
print or even on a govt site does not make it factually correct. We ned
to check the validity of the information and not rely on shortcut
methods. Using several sources by different authors and checking their
qualifications to make such statements is one way - using and
information specialist (aka Librarian type person) is another.
:)
BC
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At an NEH workshop last summer, I spoke with representatives of the
National Endowment for the Humanities about Wikipedia. They told me
their frustration was that only a small part of it may be edited at one
time, so it is never quite up to date. They tried to edit the page
about NEH so that it was current but were not permitted to edit enough
to make it so. I've used that example with my students as a reason why
not to use Wikipedia.
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Colquitt County High School
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