Re: [LM_NET] Turnitin

[Kris Fallon <librarychickie@GMAIL.COM>]

Although aware that successful legal challenges have not occurred yet, it is
still incomprehensible that we as a profession are not opposed to it.
Turnitin is using student work in a manner that they reap a profit and then
sell it back to the student via turnitin or taxes.  Irrespective of the
legal decision it is exploitative.

Kristina Fallon, LMS
Robert Morris School, k-8
So Bound Brook, NJ
librarychickie@gmail.com
"Only the educated are free." - Epictus, (Greek-born, Roman slave and
philosopher- 55 AD - 135 AD)


On 9/29/08, Carol Simpson <csimpson@carolsimpson.com> wrote:
>
> The United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia found
> that Turnitin (sued under its parent name iParadigm) is not guilty of
> copyright infringement for storing and using student work, and they did not
> put much stock in the fact that students were agreeing to the user agreement
> when they signed up for the service.  The citation to the opinion (delivered
> in March) is 544 F.Supp.2d 473 (E.D. Va., 2008).
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From:         Kris Fallon <librarychickie@GMAIL.COM>
> Reply-To:     Kris Fallon <librarychickie@GMAIL.COM>
> Date:          Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:46:11 -0400
>
> >I agree with the parent.  For his reasons and others.  My sons have not
> been
> >forced to use it but I would argue to the end against them being compelled
> >to do so.
> >
> >That a for profit company earnings should be mainly dependant upon and a
> > result of collecting and storing students work without compensation to
> them
> >is unconscienable.  Then, for that company to sell that service to the
> >school which the student has to pay for (via tuition/taxes) is utterly
> >repulsive.
> >
> >In an effort to guard against misconducts of plagiarism, Turnitin has
> >committed a far more grave wrong.
> >
> >I'm sorry, I know this is not what you were looking for but I don't
> >understand as a librarian and teacher, why we as a group are not more
> vocal
> >against this type of arrangement.  Thanks for hearing me out.
> >
> >Kristina Fallon, LMS
> >Robert Morris School, k-8
> >So Bound Brook, NJ
> >librarychickie@gmail.com
> >"Only the educated are free." - Epictus, (Greek-born, Roman slave and
> >philosopher- 55 AD - 135 AD)
> >On 9/29/08, Cheryl Quinn <cquinn@saintviator.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We have a parent objecting to our requiring their student to use
> >> Turnitin.  They have a whole laundry list of objections-one of the first
> >> is that they have read the "users agreement" and it does call for
> >> parental permission if the student is under 18.  Our position is that by
> >> signing our tuition agreement that have agreed to our "internet
> >> policies" and that site is one sanctioned by Saint Viator and unless a
> >> parent actively declines participation then they are in agreement.
> >> Anyone else dealt with this issue?  The Dad is also insisting that the
> >> site in not secure and that students are required to submit personally
> >> identifiable information  to the site owner and that information can
> >> then be disclosed  to a 3rd party if the user opts in/opts out.  The
> >> parent feels this is not acceptable for students under 18.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any thoughts will be welcome.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheryl Quinn
> >>
> >> Librarian
> >>
> >> Saint Viator High School
> >>
> >> Arlington Heights, IL
> >>
> >> cquinn@saintviator.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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