I haven't seen the game show everyone is talking about, but it is false that
"Fiction books are NOT assigned numbers in the Dewey Decimal
System". The reason it is false is that fairy tales are assigned 398.2 in
the Dewey Decimal System. Fairy tales are usually fiction and so are many of
the 811 books. It is confusing that we call the books with numbers on them
non-fiction, and I always tell the children "except for the fairy tales
which are 398.2 and many (or maybe all) of the 811 books." I suppose fairy
tales and literature can be based on something true. In our library we
categorize chapter fiction books as fiction and picture books as easy.
However, several picture books are fiction while some are non-fiction. I am
a school librarian for K-2 and I do tell them about the Dewey System. We are
even looking at the on-line catalog and looking up books while doing author,
title, and subject searches. It's surprising what kids that young can
understand. They seem to be excited about looking at the OPAC.
Cindra Boring
Librarian
Madisonville Primary School
Madisonville, TN 37354
cbtn@bellsouth.net
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:35:58 -0500
From: "Elissa L. Rizzo" <rizzo@MAIN.MORRIS.ORG>
Subject: GEN: game show mistake?
I saw this show last night as well and was very annoyed with the question
and answer. Fiction books ARE assigned a Dewey number (in the 800s). It is
just that most libraries choose to keep all fiction books in a "Fiction"
section because this method is much more user friendly. So this show
portrayed a wrong answers to be correct as well as phrasing the question
in a very confusing manner.
Elissa Rizzo
School Library Media Specialist
Benedict A. Cucinella School
Long Valley, NJ
&
Young Adult Librarian
Washington Twp. Public Library
Long Valley, NJ
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:24:58 -0500
From: Leigh Woznick <bookmom@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: GEN: game show mistake?
Did anyone else see the new game show "Are you smarter than a 5th grader"
tonight?
One of the questions was in the category of 3rd grade reading. I didn't
see the
whole show, and came in on this question. But I think it said:
"True or false? Fiction books are NOT assigned numbers in the Dewey
Decimal System".
The woman contestant and all of the 5th graders answered false, and they
were told
this was correct.
Am I crazy? Did I see it wrong? I think everyone got tripped up by
semantics -- it
was confusingly worded.
But if I saw it correctly, this is perpetuating incorrect information to
however
many millions of folks watched the show.
Leigh Woznick
Library Media Specialist
Bridgewater-Raritan Middle School
Bridgewater, NJ
lwoznick@brrsd.k12.nj.us
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:31:06 -0600
From: Raynette Schulte <rschulte@WATERTOWNSD.US>
Subject: Re: GEN: game show mistake?
I was pleased to see the question, even in it's tricky state of asking. =
It's a great way to bring dewey discussions up. My girls and I have =
loved this game show, and will continue to watch it. The kids, coached =
or not, have a great time. I've worked in Elementary, and the questions =
are pretty close to on target. I even had to admit that I couldn't come =
up with the Mayflower (couldn't get past the Nina, the Pinta, and the =
Santa Maria). How embarrassing, but I did know the sun was a star! We =
play along all in fun. . .
Raynette Schulte
Young Adult Librarian
Watertown Regional Library
Watertown, SD
rschulte@watertownsd.us
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From: Marsha Redd=20
To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU=20
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: GEN: game show mistake?
I saw the show and remarked to my husband and son that this was a =
horrible=20
question. The answer was correct--It is false that fiction books are =
NOT=20
assigned a Dewey number, but the double negative is confusing to say =
the=20
least. This show was already getting a thumbs down from me and this =
question=20
cemented my poor opinion of it. I don't really buy that some of these=20
questions are actually for the age the show says. They had a geometry=20
question on Tuesday that was supposed to be fourth grade math. I never =
had=20
to calculate the height of a triangle in the fourth grade. And the =
questions=20
that are appropriate for the grade level are embarrassing when the=20
contestants get them wrong. It seems like they are screening for dumb=20
contestants. It also seems like the kids are coached. All-in-all, a =
bad=20
show.
That being said, I would like to get your opinions on one thing: I =
told my=20
son and husband that most elementary kids would be totally confused by =
the=20
Dewey question because, while there is a literature Dewey designation, =
most=20
school libraries have fiction in a separate section. Am I wrong?
Marsha Redd
Librarian, Kelloggsville High School
Grand Rapids, MI
marsharedd@hotmail.com
Education is not a goal; it is a life-long process. Everyone is a =
student.=20
Everyone is a teacher.
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Reply-To: Leigh Woznick <bookmom@OPTONLINE.NET>
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Subject: [LM_NET] GEN: game show mistake?
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:24:58 -0500
Did anyone else see the new game show "Are you smarter than a 5th =
grader"=20
tonight?
One of the questions was in the category of 3rd grade reading. I =
didn't see=20
the whole show, and came in on this question. But I think it said:
"True or false? Fiction books are NOT assigned numbers in the Dewey =
Decimal=20
System".
The woman contestant and all of the 5th graders answered false, and =
they=20
were told
this was correct.
Am I crazy? Did I see it wrong? I think everyone got tripped up by=20
semantics -- it was confusingly worded.
But if I saw it correctly, this is perpetuating incorrect information =
to=20
however many millions of folks watched the show.
Leigh Woznick
Library Media Specialist
Bridgewater-Raritan Middle School
Bridgewater, NJ
lwoznick@brrsd.k12.nj.us
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:51:17 -0500
From: Christine Rinehart <rinehartc1@GAYLORD.K12.MI.US>
Subject: Gameshow: the correct answer was "false"
The correct answer is false. It was the first time I watched and I was
amazed at the poor wording, also. It is almost a double negative. I had
to take the "NOT" out and then reverse my answer: Fiction books are
assigned numbers in the Dewey Decimal System. This is, of course, true-
all fiction books are technically in the 800s in Dewey's system as
literature. So that must mean putting the "NOT" in the question changes
the answer to "false". Personally, I told my husband that this either
proved that the show was rigged (please, how many students know that
fiction books are technically 800s in the Dewey system even though
many/most libraries do not catalog them that way?) OR it proves how
badly the question was worded.
=20
Christine Rinehart
Library Media Specialist
Gaylord Community Schools
Gaylord Michigan
989-731-0856 ext. 1511
989-731-0969 ext. 1217
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:54:28 -0600
From: Beth Yoke <byoke@ALA.ORG>
Subject: Mid & Sec: enter a Teen Tech Week contest!
We're excited about YALSA's first ever Teen Tech Week March 4-10, and we
hope you are, too! An easy way to participate is through one of YALSA's
contests. You can win a great prize for the Teen Tech Week display you
create, or you could win a visit with the author Lauren Myracle for the
best Teen Tech Week event. Your teens have an opportunity to win, too!
We have great prizes for the teen who shoots the most creative video
encouraging their peers to use the library.
You can learn all of the details at www.ala.org/teentechweek. Just
click on the link on the left called "Contests." All contest deadlines
have been extended to March 19th.
Thanks for all that you do to ensure that your teens are safe and
effective users of information technologies!
-Beth
Beth Yoke, Executive Director
Young Adult Library Services Association,
fastest growing division of the American Library Association
50 E. Huron St.
Chicago, IL 60611
1 (800) 545-2433 x4391
byoke@ala.org
www.ala.org/yalsa
Celebrate Teen Tech Week!
www.ala.org/teentechweek
March 4-10, 2007
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:55:11 -0800
From: Julie Ellen Gott <julgott@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Responses question: library time FILLERS at the end of elementary
library class
Helllo,
=20
Many People asked me to email them some responses to different library =
time fillers for the end of library class...
=20
Julie Knott ----Unity Elementary Schools Tolono, IL
julknott@illinoisalumni.org
=20
=20
Here are some: (I have more to send too...)=20
=20
=20
I have purchased a number of trivia games from bookstores and book fair=
s in the past and pull out questions from time to time. It really gets th=
e class to listen and they enjoy answering questions that may not always =
be about library. You may also check with classroom teachers and ask for =
some of their questions to help the students review various subjects.
=20
One strategy that can be fun is to establish a =93ticket out the door.=94=
Kids have to tell you one new thing they learned or one title they reall=
y would recommend, or something to show they are leaving the library a li=
ttle different than when they came in. They can be thinking of what their=
=93ticket=94 will be as they stand in line. Then they deliver it to you,=
orally, on their way past you.
Jane Behrens, Teacher-Librarian
Johnston High School
Johnston, IA 50131
jbehrens@johnston.k12.ia.us
=20
One of the librarians in our district reads a poem when the students
line up... they are quiet because she is reading and they want to hear
the poem. I was planning to give it a try.
"-)
--=20
Janice Conger
Librarian
Arrowhead Elementary
congerjan@gmail.com
I have the younger students play "show & tell" with their books. The=
y really love to do this. Another game that kids love is this: Pick a le=
tter in the alphabet. Choose someone to take a guess which one it is. R=
espond by telling the class that your secret letter comes BEFORE or AFTER=
that letter. Let kids take turn guessing until someone gets it right. T=
he child who guesses correctly gets to choose the next secret letter. Thi=
s is excellent practice with ABC order and kids have to listen carefully =
to you and each other to be successful.
--=20
Michele Nokleby
Hawthorne Elementary School Librarian
Missoula, MT
mnokleby@gmail.com=20
don't know what grade levels you have, but have you tried things like=20
BINGO ( the song) and rhyming games? I talked to my music teacher and=20
stole a few of the games?songs she has taught in music to fill a few=20
minutes with the little ones. For the older ones, I try doing character=20
descriptions and having them guess who/what book these characters are=20
from. Hope this helps a little. Happy weekend,
=20
=20
Some of these are old, so there is no web site that I can give you. I LOV=
E
this sort of thing as the kids are lining up (and they seem to, also). I =
am
the Academic Team coach for grades 6-8, so I look at the last several
minutes of class, as the kids are lined up waiting for their teacher, as
fun for them AND "coaching" future prospects for AT.
Most of these are available in Parent/Teacher type stores, online, or may=
be
even at garage sales (see below).
*Tot Trivia - PK/Kindergarten Trivia Games, Inc. Bellingham WA 98226
*Junior Trivia - 5-9 years
Language Arts Trivial Pursuit - in card form
Brain Quest card game (there are MANY of these - different ages/genres)
United States flash cards - 7 yr. and up (Golden Step Ahead)
Great Source Education Group - Daily questions in all areas -=20
geography/phonics/science/vocabulary/analogies, etc.
www.greatsource.com
*20 Questions for Kids - board game/I just use the questions.
University Games.
*My favorites.
Janelle Quick Simon
Librarian
Christ the King School
412 Cochran Road
Lexington KY 40502
jsimon@ctkschool.cdlex.org
"Read, read, read" - William Faulkner
I am a high school media specialist, but last fall I
had to go to verious schools, at all levels, to
observe. One of the nice things I saw was that the
media specialist had taught the students numerous
songs that had to do with the county wide
Holocaust/tolerance unit - or just cute songs. This
certainly filled the empty time with a fun activitiy.
Carole Walkden
Fort Lauderdale High
Media Specialist
754-322-4450
carole.walkden@browardschools.com
Julie Gott
Unity East Elementary School Librarian
Philo, Illinois
JuLknott@iLLinoisaLumni.org
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:13:46 -0600
From: lnocita <lnocita@BARSTOWSCHOOL.ORG>
Subject: TAR: Online PHD program in Florida
Does anyone know which school in Florida it is that offers an online PhD
program that dovetails with national certification?
Lisa Nocita, LMS
lnocita@barstowschool.org
The Barstow School
11511 State Line Road
Kansas City, MO 64114
816-277-0308
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:17:03 -0500
From: Helen Rape <hjr0928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Praxis
Taking ETS Praxis test for Media Specialist in NC-any help on what to study
appreciated.
Also, someone gave me this url from a site in florida -
www.lis.fsu.edu/Includes/Content/pdf/ssd78_sample_fl_lib_MedSp_test.pdf
but this doesnt' work? Anyone know what the correct one might be?
Thanks
Helen Rape
Anson High School
hrape@anson.k12.nc.us
704-694-6987
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:20:16 -0600
From: Tom Tomporowski <ttomporowski@PERHAM.K12.MN.US>
Subject: scrotums, books, and all that jazz
There have been some =93smart=94 and =93thoughtful=94 people posting =
about this subject to LM_NET. Even though I only have one of those two =
aforementioned characteristics, I will submit my experience.
Last year, we dealt with several book challenges, some going only to the =
informal =93school personnel only=94 meetings---all the way to the =
=93large room community/school board emotionally charged meeting.=94 =
(The challenges continue this year, but, so far, with less fervor. And, =
thanks to my administration, we have our challenge process well =
established.)
Thoughts:
The word =93appropriate=94 is a =93front=94 word, beyond which lies the =
whole gamut of human emotions. I will not attempt to define the word =
=93appropriate=94 and will leave that definition up to you. Most of the =
book challenges in my district dealt with books that were =93not =
appropriate=94 for middle school students, (grades 5-8), but rather =
should be moved to the high school, (grades 9-12). (Would that type of =
move, in your mind, constitute a ban?) =20
And here, also, is where the concept of =93in loco parentis=94 falls =
apart. When all of the books in a 5-8 school are intermingled within =
the same collection, some parents will believe their fifth grade =
children to be in grave danger. The parents of eighth grade children =
may think and feel otherwise. (Are we going to eventually end up with =
book collections specific to each grade?) In fact, we had to eventually =
devise an elaborate system which gave parents decision-making power for =
the reading choices of their children. In essence, we had to establish =
a =93profile=94 for each student. (Thank goodness for computerized book =
circulation systems that allow for us to create and monitor individual =
reading choices.)
It helps, when dealing with parents and emotionally charged book =
challenges, to not create an oppositional atmosphere. Reach out to =
opponents; or, at least, attempt to empathize with them. Respect their =
opinions and who they are, while at the same time maintaining your own =
standards, and, your own professional dignity. =20
There is idealism and there is pragmatism. They each have their value =
and their place in schools and in society. We human beings are a blend =
of the two. If you ever have to deal with book challenges, you may need =
to ask yourself to which side of that blend you gravitate.
thomas neil tomporowski
Perham High School LMC
Prairie Wind Middle School LMC
Perham, MN , USA 56573
ttomporowski@perham.k12.mn.us
www.perham.k12.mn.us/phs/staff/ttomporowski
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