Re: [LM_NET] Breaking away from the ALA

[Paula Yohe <paula_yohe@YAHOO.COM>]

You care -- 
  Many if they do not go to an ALA accredited school -- don't know and don't care.
   
  Nancy -- how I came to this opinion -- 
  many years of traveling around the country doing sessions at conferences, being 
involved at state level organizations not just for media specialists, being on 
committees at the State Dept. of Education that have nothing to do with libraries 
and seeing and hearing the attitudes,
  sitting in personnel meetings and listening to what personnel folks have to say, 
listening to administrators, the list is endless....
   
  For example -- in SC -- personnel directors feel USC makes it difficult for 
school library media specialists to get certified -- (now that statement is an 
entire other discussion) 
  so they will send media specialists through the PACE program, send them to 
Cambridge, etc.
  They could care less about ALA accreditation --
  they want someone certified to be in the library so they can move on to the next 
problem....
   
  Hope that helps a little 
  I am on spring vacation -- and swore I was not going to get caught up in this 
discussion
   
  Back to yard work
  Paula

"Foster, Nancy E" <FosterN@bsd405.org> wrote:
  School administrators are right to want highly qualified certified teacher 
librarians since a large part of the job in the school setting is teaching. Being a 
school librarian is completely different (I imagine) from being a librarian in a 
non-school setting. Of course there is overlap, but the focus is different. 

However, I am not sure about your assumption that teacher librarians could care 
less about ALA. I for one do care and I attended an accredited program at the 
University of Washington. I wouldn't have attended a non-accredited program. Also, 
every librarian in the district where I work attended the mid-winter conference 
here in Seattle and were supported in this by our administrators. 

Paula, could you elaborate about how you came to this opinion? I'm just curious 
because I don't really know what's happening everywhere in the country, as I'm 
somewhat isolated here in the northwest.

Thanks!
Nancy

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From: School Library Media & Network Communications on behalf of Paula Yohe
Sent: Tue 4/10/2007 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Breaking away from the ALA



That's my point --

Most school administrators are not concerned that the college program is accredited 
by ALA -- they want someone who can be certified -- it doesn't matter about ALA....

And most of these librarians really have no interest in ALA---and they don't see 
the benfit of going to a school that is accredited by ALA.

So we have even more folks that ciuld care less about ALA -- and less of an 
influence on ALA

Paula'



"Foster, Nancy E" wrote:
Paula,

I'm not sure what you mean by a "big deal," so I want to clarify what my original 
point was. From my experience, library media specialists that I know are excellent 
teachers who chose to go to an accredited school to learn how to apply 
librarianship in the school setting. The majority of these are excellent at their 
job.

How much teaching experience do MLS programs offer?

Nancy

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From: School Library Media & Network Communications on behalf of Paula Yohe
Sent: Mon 4/9/2007 7:20 PM
To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Breaking away from the ALA



I am seeing more and more of this.
Having a media specialist from an ALA accredited school is not a big deal to 
schools.

And the poster below mentioned a book challenge -- and wanting ALA
In most places -- bringing in ALA would not be considered a positive -- "since all 
ALA promotes is porn on the INteret for kids" -- NOT my opinion but a general 
belief among alot of people.

Paula


"Foster, Nancy E" wrote:
I have to weigh in on this, because in my opinion a library media specialist is 
first and foremost a teacher and secondarily a librarian. Not all librarians are 
necessarily effective teachers, and in a school setting, that's what is important. 
These "people who are filling the country up are teachers who choose to become 
teacher librarians by enrolling in academic programs designed for teaching skills 
students need.

Nancy Foster
Library Media Specialist
International School
Bellevue, WA

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From: School Library Media & Network Communications on behalf of Ellen Nosal
Sent: Sun 4/8/2007 7:02 PM
To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Breaking away from the ALA



I just had to come out of the shadows and respond to this one.

Should "we" break away from the ALA? Not I, after working so hard to become a 
librarian.

Although I am proud and happy to be a library media specialist, I will always be a 
librarian first and foremost. In my opinion, that is essential to being a good 
library media specialist. The country is filling up with people who become 
certified as library media specialists without every having worked a single day in 
a library. This is because the emphasis on librarianship has taken a back seat to 
all the other roles we must play. A meaningful professional relationship with our 
local public librarians helps us to stay grounded in our own profession, and allows 
us to be of greater service to our students.

If I were to find myself facing a challenge to a book, I'd want to have the ALA 
backing me.

Ellen Nosal, MLS
Library Media Specialist
Walter Polson Middle School
Madison, CT 06443
nosale@madison.k12.ct.us



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Paula Yohe
Director Of Technology/Library Media Center
Dillon School District Two
405 West Washington Street
Dillon, SC 29536
Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214
paula_yohe@yahoo.com

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Paula Yohe
Director Of Technology/Library Media Center
Dillon School District Two
405 West Washington Street
Dillon, SC 29536
Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214
paula_yohe@yahoo.com

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Paula Yohe
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405 West Washington Street
Dillon, SC 29536
Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214
paula_yohe@yahoo.com
       
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