Thank you to all who responded. As a first time L_MNETer I am very
appreciative of the vast knowledge base here. Below is the
collection of responses I received.
Chris Bohne
Media Specialist
Adlai E. Stevenson II Elementary
Bloomington, Illinois
bohnec@district87.org
I am a Media Specialist in a K-5 Elementary. We house the ESL
program for our district. We have a lab of emacs. Currently
students save work to a folder on a shared volume on the server.
Students are not required to use a log in or password to access
applications. There are concerns about the safety of student work.
Students could theoretically could trash work at any time.
My questions: Do you work in a K-5 lab where students use logins and
passwords? If so at what grade level do you introduce this? Do you
have any suggestions for how best to implement this? Has anyone
tried to implement this and decided it did not work?
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We have log ins (first initial and last name) for all our 2nd grade
and up students. A few kids have a problem but most get it quickly. A
suggestion: take a name card and have kids write down their log in
name on it. Give it out to any student who needs it.
In our K-5 elementary, the third, fourth and fifth grade students
definitely use their own server space to save work. Each student has
his/her own user id and password. The user id's are quite long:
grad.yearlastnamefirstnamemiddleinitial. So, if I were a student
graduating in 2015, my user id would be 2015fisherbetties. I
thought the students were going to have a hard time with this, but
they don't at all.
Now, since I teach the 2nd and 1st graders, I'm deciding when to
introduce saving to the server and thinking I'll probably do it in
the next couple of months. I think the second graders will do just
fine and, with a little more time and help, I'm betting the 1st
graders will do just fine, too.
Everyone in our school uses logins and passwords to use computers pre-
k-12-staff. When elem. students are just searching the OPAC, (they
start this in second grade, and I allow it up until 5th) I do let
just the first one on each computer in each class log in and then the
next one can go on and do a search without logging out which requires
a restart, since the teacher and I are both there watching what's
going on and would notice anything else being on the screens quite
quickly. The really young ones need a fair bit of asssistance, but
they catch on pretty well by the time they are using computers to any
considerable degree.
I work in a K-6 school and we use individual folders for all our
students beginning in grade 3. All students in grade 3 use the same
password (abc) which saves a lot of headaches. They love having
their own
folders on the server. The must learn to login using their name and
year of
graduation. So for example Joe Smith a 3rd grader, graduating in 2015,
would enter:
Name: smithj15
Password abc
They keep the same folder through grade six when they leave our
school. We
show them how to organize their folders by creating a folder for each
grade
level.
I'm in a K-3 school. The solution our tech people came up with is to
have class log-ins. Every child in, say, Mrs. Jones' class has the
log-in name "Jones," followed by a very simple password, such as "j" or
"abc." Once the child has logged in, they "see" student applications
and folders just for that class. If I'm doing something with the class,
I usually create a sub-folder for each child, so they know where to save
work. This doesn't eliminate every problem (I still find it easier to
have the lab tech turn on all the computers and log-in ahead of time,
especially at the beginning of the year) but it seems a nice balance
between security and sense. Our second and third graders get the hang
of it really fast.
Our elementary students have had log-ins and passwords from day one.
It is very easy to implement and the kids do well with it. Can't
imagine not having them. Even the little ones learn their log-ins
and passwords soon after being given them.
Suggestion for implementation: Put the kids' log-ins and passwords
on index cards with their name on the top one side and the log-in and
password on the other. Alphabetize and keep them in a file box by
class. Hand them out when the kids come to the lab. Collect them
after they have logged in. After a while they will no longer need
the card. We really stress the privacy policy and that no one should
know their password but themselves and the teacher.
I am in a K-5 building and students are introduced sometime in
kindergarten with the teachers first 3 letters and their magic number
as login and password.
Ex. for you boh7 - boh7.
It seems to work fine for most them and of course there are some who
need help but by the end of first grade all students are successful.
Keep it simple -
While I now work in a 6-8 library, I worked for 6 years in a K-5
building first. All students and staff had personal logins so that
they could safely save their work to a networked drive. And yes, it
was hard for the youngest students to login, so if they didn't need
to save anything, I would log the computers on for the class before
they came, using a generic student password. In my opinion, students
from grades 3 and up should be able to learn how to login using their
name and a password they created. It will take some time initally,
but it is time well spent !
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I am forced to go this route. I hate it using it for K's and first
graders! I don't have my K's sign in, I do whole group activities
with a SMART Board or ask the class before them to leave their
computers logged on. For 1st graders we do lots of modeling, use
cheat cards and send homework with practice log in boxes home. I
tell the kids that their usernames and passwords are just like
spelling words and we talk about different ways to help us memorize
them. Usually, the children are highly motivated and want to use the
computers, so they learn it. By the end of 1st grade, I expect them
to have usernames and passwords memorized. By the end of 2nd grade,
I expect them to be able to log in in under 30 seconds. I time test
them!
It ceases to amaze me that a student in K won't be able to know or
spell their last name but they sure can spell disney.com in the web
browser window!
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